Higher dosage tongkat ali extract


I have recently tried higher dosages of tongkat ali 1:50 extract (still in combination with 50 mg of Viagra), and I am thoroughly impressed.

The dosage I used has been twice a day 2 gram of extract, taken in the morning and in the early afternoon, both times during a meal (as I cannot bear the bitter taste of the tongkat ali without eating a few bites first, and after having swallowed the extract, dissolved in half a cup of lukewarm water).

First, I feel no side effects whatsoever, even from the higher dosages. Initially, tongkat ali extract caused me a kind of hot-headedness, but this is no longer the case. However, one trial participant reported that he vomited after he ingested 15 gram (a full sample package) in one go.

In that it doesn't cause unpleasant side effects, tongkat ali is different from all other herbal and pharmacological aphrodisiacs I tested. Yohimbe has the worst side effect profile, as it causes serious heart palpitations and doesn't allow me to sleep for at least 20 hours after having ingested it. Another side effect of yohimbe is diarrhea. And I had feedback from people who seriously thought they wouldn't make it to the next morning.

Dopaminergics are also not free of side effects. At a sufficiently high dosage all of them except cabergoline cause a low-level nausea as well as extreme sleepiness. Also, the pro-sexual effect of dopaminergics wears off pretty fast, unless very large dosages are consumed (e.g. by Parkinson's patients).

The tongkat ali, on the other hand, seems to become better and better the longer I use it.

The following are my observations on large dosages.

Unless I am in a sexual situation, I don't actually feel much. I'm probably a little bit energized, as after having two or three cups of tea. But that's about it.

When, after having used rather large dosages over two or three days, I have intercourse, I am extraordinarily focused. I can easily go on for 20 minutes, and nothing, really nothing can disturb my attention.

Now, don't laugh: When in a tongkat ali cycle, I can receive and answer a telephone call during intercourse, and lose neither my (Viagra-aided, 50 mg) erection, nor my mental focus on the sexual activity I am engaging in.

This is in stark contrast to what happens on Viagra alone. On Viagra alone, I can produce an erection upon physical manipulation of the erectile organ. But that doesn't mean that I would be focused on intercourse. If a telephone call disturbs Viagra-only intercourse, I certainly won't continue. Actually, it has happened to me more than once that on Viagra only, I just stopped in the middle of intercourse without having reached an orgasm, simply because I was totally uninterested in achieving one. And that was without the phone ringing.

Now, that's pretty bad. It's definitely worse than an orgasm without an erection.

Yes, tongkat ali keeps my eyes totally on the road to an orgasm, no matter what happens around me. I best compare this sexual focus with the focus on hearing music after having smoked marijuana. When hearing music on marijuana, I can identify every musical instrument in a compound sound. And I can enjoy the music even if there is disturbing, unrelated noise around me.

With tongkat ali extract at sufficiently high dosages over several days (4 grams of extract per day), I can receive and answer a phone call without stopping rhythmic penetration (and enjoy it just the same).




1 Surachai Kotiruma, Shaiful Bahari Ismailb, Nathorn Chaiyakunapruk, Efficacy of Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia) on erectile function improvement: Systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials, Complementary Therapies in Medicine Volume 23, Issue 5, October 2015, Pages 693-698

2 Sarah E. Edwards, Ines da Costa Rocha, Phytopharmacy: An Evidence-Based Guide to Herbal Medicinal Products, Pages displayed by permission of John Wiley & Sons. Copyright.

3 Zakia Khanama, Chew Shwu Wena, Irshad Ul Haq Bhatb, Phytochemical screening and antimicrobial activity of root and stem extracts of wild Eurycoma longifolia Jack (Tongkat Ali), Journal of King Saud University - Science Volume 27, Issue 1, January 2015, Pages 23-30

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Four times the standard dosage of tongkat ali extract


The information below has been provided by a subscriber to our domains and user of tongkat ali extract from North Sumatra. The name, email address, telephone number, and physical address of the author are known to us. If you are a journalist covering tongkat ali, or a scientific researcher, we can provide full contact details so that you can contact the author for further information as well as to verify the reported effects of tongkat ali.

Please note that a standard dosage of tongkat ali 1:50 extract is about 1 gram, and of 1:200 extract, it is about half a gram. Translated into teaspoon measures, a single dose of 1:50 extract is less than half a teaspoon, and a single dose of 1:200 is about a quarter of a teaspoon. The reader whose experience is given below used more than 4 times the recommended dosages and experienced the following symptoms: "The urine flow is wide open; sexual drive is up, genitalia are larger (almost like having a semi-erection without sexual arousal; testes much larger - almost like swollen, and are sensitive when my dose is high; have to be careful how I sit sometimes), mind is much clearer, have more energy, bone and joint pain is almost completely gone."

Here the full mail:

"Sam, My osteopath (and I'm getting rid of him, because he isn't into natural health, like a thought he might be) said that I was low on testosterone. As mentioned in an article in the latest issue of Life Extension, this can have very bad repercussions, including osteoporosis, heart attack, stroke and prostate cancer (although most doctors think that increasing testosterone can CAUSE cancer - relying on a MINORITY of research reports rather than the majority, as mentioned in Life Extension Magazine). Life Extension is a nonprofit organization that has a couple of boards made up of MDs who are on the cutting edge of life extension research and practice. Doctors are not really as a whole, up on the whole issue of testosterone and accept much lower levels of it for patients than they should. I became alarmed because my sleep cycle had been disturbed, my immune system had broken down (evidenced by my catching about 8 or 10 times the colds that I normally do, including accomanying prostatitis, prostate hypertrophy and resultant poor urine flow), my bones and joints started to ache a lot, my urine flow was beginning to ebb and flow (in waves, i.e., cyclical fluidic pressure amplitude) and my energy level, focus, concentration and mental sharpness had waned tremendously (not good for an engineering professor), I sent for 1:50 and 1:200 concentrations of TA. I didn't have access to an accurate scale, so I started using about 2-3 heaping 1/4 teaspoons full of the "1:200"... The stuff REALLY WORKS! The urine flow is wide open; sexual drive is up, genitalia are larger (almost like having a semi-erection without sexual arousal; testes much larger - almost like swollen, and are sensitive when my dose is high; have to be careful how I sit sometimes), mind is much clearer, have more energy, bone and joint pain is almost completely gone... I am experiencing an intermittant sense of spontaneous joy and well being, sometimes breaking out in laughter for apparently no reason except that I just feel GREAT. I have a concern on "O-D'ing". I thought that I read in some of your writings that one should take TA on a cycle, i.e., lay off of it for several days, but I can't find what I thought you wrote on the web. Did I have that right? My concern is toxicity or "overdriving" the Leydig cells so that they "burn out", like islet cells in the pancreas burn out, causing diabetes when people eat too much processed sugar over many years. I don't want to set up any liver problems or burn out the Leydig cells. Is there a concern in that regard? Or, may any reasonable amount of TA be taken on a continual basis without a break? Also, if you happen to have a 1/4 teaspoon measure around could you tell me how many 1/4 teaspoons of 1:200 are equivalent to the 1 gram dose of 1:50?... Hope this email adds some useful info and insight to the anecdotal evidence of TA's efficacy for general cardiovascular and prostate as well as sexual health."




1 Young Min Han, Moonhee Jang, In Sook Kim, Seung Hyun Kim, Hye Hyun Yoo, Simultaneous quantitation of six major quassinoids in Tongkat Ali dietary supplements by liquid chromatography with tandem mass spectrometry , View issue TOC Volume 38, Issue 13 July 2015 Pages 2260-2266

2 Sarah E. Edwards, Ines da Costa Rocha, Elizabeth M. Williamson, Michael Heinrich, Phytopharmacy: An Evidence-Based Guide to Herbal Medicinal Products, Pages displayed by permission of John Wiley & Sons. Copyright.

3 Choon Keat Kuan, Dominic Chwan Yee Foo, Raymond R. Tan , Sivakumar Kumaresan, Ramlan Abdul Aziz, Streamlined life cycle assessment of residue utilization options in Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia) water extract manufacturing process, Clean Technologies and Environmental Policy August 2007, Volume 9, Issue 3, pp 225-234

4 Shalender Bhasin, M.D., Thomas W. Storer, Ph.D., Nancy Berman, Ph.D., Carlos Callegari, M.D., Brenda Clevenger, B.A., Jeffrey Phillips, M.D., Thomas J. Bunnell, B.A., Ray Tricker, Ph.D., Aida Shirazi, R.Ph., and Richard Casaburi, Ph.D., M.D. N Engl J Med , The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men